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Dr Kaukab Siddique | Editor-in-Chief Sha'ban 11, 1433/July 1, 2012 # 28

Prophet Muhammad, pbuh, suffered all that our ummah is suffering today. See Br. Yusuf's advocacy below.

A delegation of Pakistani Islamic doctors' association is visiting Africa to give free medical relief. At this time, they are in Cameroon. Next stop is Gambia.

A report from India: It's about a prominent woman. Strange but quite common in India. Please scroll to end.

Munawar Hasan, Pak leader, pre-empts moves to restore NATO supply line. Please scroll to end.
NATO remains blocked. [Munawar Hasan is receiving many visitors. Most recent is the popular leader Imran Khan who visited on June 28.]

Outreach: June 29, 2012

Jamaat al-Muslimeen literature to 100 Muslims in Philadelphia & 50 in Newark, Delaware

After juma prayers, JAM literature was distributed to 100 Muslims at a masjid next to University of Pennsylvania. The papers went like hot cakes. The khateeb was good too and spoke about Rohingya Muslims of Burma [publicized only by New Trend in USA. ]

The items distributed included Jamaate Islami and ad-Dawa and other groups in Pakistan successful blocking of NATO's supply route, Br. Kaukab's meeting with Rohingya Muslims originating with Maulana Maudoodi, commentary on Zionist blockade of famous historian David Irving, the great victory in Egypt and Imam Badi Ali's warning that the West and the military will try hard to undemine Egypt's victory. Bangladesh oppression of Islamic leaders was highlighted.
Most of the Muslims at the masjid in Philadelphia were from African countries, Bangladesh and African Americans.

The Juma crowds in Newark, Delaware, were from Pakistan and Egypt and Malaysia. Here the reception to Jamaat literature was not very warm. Literature on Hadith and mistakes Muslims make about Hadith was distributed along with reports on conflict in Nigeria, Yemen and Syria. Also, a very critical article on Prince Nayef who was involved in torture of Saudi political prisoners.

Many immigrants are being brought from Pakistan and Arab countries and put in mosques where they are subjected to brainwashing of the CAIR [the government loves us!] type.

Hail! Hail! Hail! [ Scroll down to Br. Yusuf's naseeha on this great occasion] [Also Sis. Aisha's comment on Lynne.]
Dr. Mursi Calls for Release of Dr. Omar Abdel Rahman addressing Huge Egyptian crowds

The shoora of Jamaat-al-Muslimeen is delighted with the new Egyptian President Dr. Mursi's demand that the Blind Sheik and other Islamic prisoners be released. He was making his inaugural speech to the entire Egyptian people and the world. He said that he is answerable to Allah and the people, and not anyone else.

We urge Dr. Mursi to also help those who were arrested for helping Dr. Omar Abdel Rahman including Lynne Stewart, his lawyer, and Ahmed Abdel Sattar, his translator. These are people outstanding as self-sacrificing human beings. It is America's shame that the Zionist friends of Hosni Mubarak put them in prison. President Obama, himself a blind supporter of Israel, should have released them out of sheer decency but being a yes-man of the criminals in Tel Aviv, he pretended that all is fine.

Then look at the plight of Imam Jamil al-Amin,Dr. Ali Timimi, Dr. Kifah, Masoud Khan [ ] , and all the others rotting in USA's gulag. They were never terrorists. Looks like as if after Muslim country after Muslim country rises up, only then will the American injustice be realized.

Aafia Siddiqui, what have you done that they are holding you? Even innocents like Ziyad Yaghi and Abu Ali! All this is the doing of "Israhell" as Mark Glenn says it.

The words of Dr. Muhammad Mursi: June 29: [with thanks to Br. Richard.]
"I see banners for Omar Abdel Rahman's family, and for prisoners arrested according to martial rulings and detainees from the beginning of the revolution," said Egyptian president-elect Mohammed Morsi to a buoyant crowd of Islamist supporters in Cairo's Tahrir Square on Friday. "It is my duty to make every effort, and I will beginning tomorrow, to secure their release, among them Omar Abdel Rahman."

US Media continues to lie!
[Ed note: See the word "Islamist" invented by "Israhell." It should be "Islamic." Obviously the quote is from a western news agency ABC. It even claims that Dr. Omar was convicted for the first World Trade Center bombing. What a lie! He was not even tried for that case. He was tried for a fabricated "conspiracy."

From Jamaat al-Muslimeen Tennessee's Advocacy Director Br. Yusuf Irlandi

Whatever is happening today also happened to Prophet Muhammad, pbuh.
Muslims can learn from the Steadfastness of Dr. Abdur Rehman
& the silence of CAIR, ICNA, ISNA, MPAC
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. To proceed:
A humble reminder from your brother Yusuf to the Ummah of Muhammad.
With the new Egyptian President Mursi's comments about working to secure the release of Shaikh Dr. 'Omar Abdel-Rahman (h.a.) - may Allah hasten his release - I wonder how much our religion is worth to us? New Trend constantly questions why these "4 Letter Word" groups are always silent when it comes to the oppression brought about upon Muslims at home and abroad, and also why do they actively work against the Muslims. Do you know it is an act of KUFR to assist non-Muslims against Muslims? It is KUFR AKBAR.
Shaikh 'Omar (h.a.) was sold out to the FBI for $500,000 dollars by one of his companions. He was clearly entrapped by this man by asking Shaikh 'Omar for fatawa on matters whilst wearing a wire the whole time.
The things that are presently happening to us individually and at large happened to our Prophet (saw). The people who hate Islam utilize 5 steps to try and destroy Islam:

  1. They ignore us. The pagan Arabs ignored the Prophet (saw) saying that he will run out of words, is a soothsayer and a magician. There were respective ayaat revealed in response to these accusations.

  2. Try to buy you out. Our Prophet (saw) was offered kingship, women, money, etc. and, as the famous hadith states, his (saw) response was: "O my uncle, by Allah, if they put the sun in my right hand and the moon in my left in return for my giving up this cause, I would not give it up until Allah makes Truth victorious, or I die in His service. "
    Many are guilty of this being bought out. There are many "Muslims" and wicked scholars who only chase their bellies and private parts. They will have no reward in the next life. The kuffar say that everyone has a price. This train of thought is only applicable to the kafir, hypocrite, and apostate, not for the true Muslim, because the price for a true Muslim is Paradise.

  3. Character Assassination. The pagan Arabs tried to assassinate the character of the Prophet (saw) when the latter two steps did not work. This is also considered in modern times as propaganda warfare. It has made every Muslim a suspected criminal in this eyes of the rulers (and most of the jahil public). Allah revealed Surah Al-Humazah in response to the pagan Arabs trying to assassinate the Prophet's (saw) character.

  4. Sanctions and Embargoes. The Prophet (saw) and his companions were embargoed for years by the Quraysh. They had to eat leaves off of trees, boil the leather on their shoes to eat, and tie stones to their stomachs because of the hunger pains. Some reports say that this was the cause of the Prophet's (saw) wife Khadijah Al-Kubra's death.
    In modern times any country that tries to implement an Islamic government is labeled as a rogue state/terrorist state. These embargoes are not something new done to the Muslims. It is imperative that we study SEERAH. Allah says in Al-Baqarah (2):118 about the kuffar: TASHAABAHAT QULOOBUHUM - "Their hearts are alike"

  5. Kill you physically. The pagan Arabs sent 7 men from 7 different tribes to kill the Prophet (saw). They said that since it is 7 men from 7 different tribes, the Prophet's (saw) tribe couldn't take revenge on them all. This is called a COALITION. Coalition is not new. So, when Muslim countries are invaded in modern times, it is always more than one country involved. What did the Prophet (saw) do? He sprinkled dust on their heads and made Hijrah. (36:9) We also see this with the utter disregard for due process and straight to execution. (Hint: a few outspoken prominent Muslims - and some who were even U.S. citizens)

Everything that is happening now has happened to our Messenger (saw). Did he despair? No! What was our Messenger's (saw) advice to Abu Bakr (ra) in the cave? "Don't despair!" What was Ya'qub's (a.s.) advice? "Certainly, no one despairs of Allah's Mercy, except the Kaafiroon!" (12:87)
"Verily, along with every hardship comes relief (ease)." (94:5) By the way, in authentic Tafseer, it is said that with every difficulty Allah gives two reliefs. How merciful is our Lord Unseen! Tabaraka Wa Ta'ala!
And remember, Allah says in Surah Al-Baqarah (2):120: "Never will the Jews nor the Christians be pleased with you till you follow their religion."
Allah says in Surah Al-Baqarah (2):217: "And they will never cease fighting you until you turn back from your religion if they can. And whosoever of you turns back from your religion and dies as a kafir, then his deeds will be lost in this life and in the hereafter, and they will be the dwellers of the Fire. They will abide therein FOREVER." Here, Allah used the word "Istatataa'oo" which means "never-ending". (Hint: Until the Day of Judgement) Is it worth it? Remember, the pens have been lifted and the ink is dry brothers and sisters.
But, even if you apostate, they will still never respect you. Why? Because you couldn't even be sincere to your original religion. Just look how the EU views Turkey.

May Allah make us amongst the Muslims who will never sell our religion for the dunya. May Allah make us of those who do not despair. Ameen. And Allah knows best. Wallahu Musta'aan.
Remember I have said that this is not a religion for wimps. When we take our Shahadatain, we voluntarily submitted ourselves to scrutiny, visits, torture, death, and hardships that only Allah knows. We are a people of 'Izzah and Karamah; well, we are supposed to be. Do not fear the blame of the blamers, be a MUSLIM (at least). Are you not proud of who you are? We sure do not show it.
Subanakah Allahummah wa bihamdik. Ashshadu an laa ilaha ill-Allah wa nastaghfiruka wa natoobu ilayk.

Our America

[June 28: A US court confirmed that Lynne Stewart, a grandmother and very unwell, should spend ten years in prison. We thank Ameejill Whitlock, a Baltimore activist, for noting it on her facebook page. Here is the Islamic response - ed]

10 Years more for Lynne Stewart, Dr. Omar Abdel Rahman's Lawyer: The devils are at work!

by Sis. Aisha, Jamaat al-Muslimeen, New York City.

I am very distressed to have read that Lynne Stewart's appeal failed to free her. The appellate court upheld her ridiculous 10 year sentence for doing nothing but relaying messages from Sheikh Omar to his Gamaa Islamiyya followers in Egypt. Even the reason for her sentence, which is fully stated in the press, makes no sense. These devils don't even try to hide the fact that this is why they have imprisoned her.

They can give you a license and take it from you. This is what they did to Alton Maddox, a famed Black-American attorney, who angered his White cohorts over twenty years ago. They simply disbarred him in New York State....Illegally. They removed a Black-American judge for following the law when she did not allow a White detective to arrest someone in her courtroom.

They giveth and they taketh away.

The anniversary of the Paki Military's assault & Abdur Rasheed Ghazi's shahadat is coming up
[From Kaukab Siddique.]
Lal Masjid which started the Islamic revolution in Pakistan.
Photo of rebuilt Red Mosque but Women's Seminary Jamia Hafsa remains Demolished

 Red Mosque
The war within Pakistan started when General Musharraf attacked the Red Mosque and the women's seminary Jamia Hafsa in Islamabad. Musharraf most probably got a "go ahead" nod from Washington And Tel Aviv. Pakistani Islamic organizations could not believe that in the very heart of the capital of this land founded on Islam, the military would attack a beautiful mosque and kill Muslim youths and hundreds of hijabi niqabi women.

The conventional mullahs supporting Musharraf were in a fix because a real Muslim will never threaten a woman who is hijabi and niqabi but the mullahs were more interested in funds for their shrines than in confronting a tyrant. Musharraf had done everything the West wanted and most of Pakistan didn't defy him. So the Zionists decided to go a step further and attack. The Pakistani military from top to toe is funded and armed by the US and they know on which side their bread is buttered.

Musharraf's troops used phosphorous in the mosque. One of those martyred, among hundreds of other women, was Abdur Rashid Ghazi's ailing mother.

As the martyr Ghazi Abdur Rasheed had warned, there was an uprising in the north from where many of the young hijabis niqabis came. The people of Swat, Dir and other areas rose up peacefully and in huge numbers demanded Islamic Law [shar'ia] to be implemented. Washington saw the Islamic people only 70 miles from Islamabad. The US media went frantic, calling on the new tyrant General Kayani to attack the Islamics.
Kayani made Musharraf look like a baby. He committed outright genocide. He emptied the ENTIRE population of Swat and made the whole area into a free fire zone to kill the Islamic people.

Unfortunately for Kayani, Islamic leader Maulvi Fazlullah and other Islamic fighters gave his troops a bloody nose but they could not face the overwhelming fire power Kayani had from the US [the entire Frontier Corp was re-armed and trained by the US], but Kayani learned that killing Muslims was not going to be a cake walk. This is one reason he has not plunged into North Waziristan and his masters in Washington are upset at him.

Musharraf and Kayani should be brought to trial. After committing extra-judicial killings on a big scale, General Kayani's propaganda arm told Pakistanis that Fazlullah and the mujahideen are working for India!

{Latest news is that Maulvi Fazlullah's fighters are back in action in Upper Dir.}

Wow! What a photo!
Karachi took the lead: Mammoth Rally in Support of Burma's Muslims.

In intense June weather, Muhammad Hussain Mahnati, ameer of Karachi's JI [inset] and 9 others addressed historic rally. Mazar e Qaide Azam faintly visible in background.
 Karachi Burma Rally
[With thanks to Shamsuddin Amjad & other Islamic journalists.]

Munawar Hasan urges Ummah of Islam to support the helpless Victims.
NATO Supply Route will remain blocked despite Regime's Tricks.
Poor Masses of Pakistan are denied Electricity & Water. Rulers live like Israelis.

LAHORE, June 29: People all over the country expressed solidarity with the Muslims of Arakan (Myanmar),Burma on Friday, on the appeal of the Ameer, Jamaat e Islami,Pakistan, Syed Munawar Hasan.
Rallies were taken out in Karachi,Peshawar,Quetta and other major cities to condemn the massacre of the Burmese Muslims and to draw the attention of the world community, the United Nations and the OIC to the issue.
The Ulema and Khatibs in their Friday addresses, stressed upon the Muslim rulers to rise for the help of the oppressed Arakan Muslims.
Syed Munawar Hasan, addressing the Friday congregation at Mansoora mosque, said if the OIC was alive and if the Muslim rulers had any sense of honour left, they should endeavour to stop the bloodshed of the Arakan Muslims.
He said had such brutalities been perpetrated against any other community, the world press, the UNO, and the NGOs would have been crying hoarse over that, but no one was taking notice of the bloodletting of the Muslims. He said that thousands of the Arakan Muslims had been killed during the last weeks.
He said that the Arakan Muslims wanted to cross over to Bangladesh but Bangladeshhad closed its borders to them and the BD government was leveling false allegations on them.
The JI Ameer said that since the 9/11, the west, under the patronage of the US, had picked up confrontation with the Muslim world as they believed that Islam was the greatest obstacles in the advancement of the western civilization. That was why the Muslims were being victimized all over the world.
He said, in the US Congress, the Democrats and the Republicans had joined hands against Pakistan and were about to move a bill that would allow Washingtonto punish those who had sympathies with the Al-Qaida and the Haqqani group. This showed that the US could go any extent to achieve its evil designs and wanted to keep this country under pressure.
He said the Haqqani net work was active inside Afghanistanand the NATO forces had failed to check it. The US wanted to bracket the Haqqani net work with Pakistan in order to force it for military operation in North Waziristan.

Syed Munawar Hasan said that the stoppage of the NATO supplies had confined the US and its allies into a blind alley and they wanted restoration of NATO supplies at any cost. However, the Pakistan nation won't allow that.

The JI Ameer said that the government had made life miserable for the common man and people were committing suicides but the shameless rulers said this was something ordinary. He said, the nation could not expect anything good from the NRO brand rulers who felt proud of US slavery.

Women Activists in Pakistan are Protesting Disappearance of Military's Opponents in Pakistan's Baluchistan.

June 26: A protest camp was set up in Quetta to call for the location and release of Muslim "suspects" held by military intelligence. Here in this photo an activist reads a statement about the crimes against humanity while the other makes a victory sign showing women's determination to win against great odds.

In Islam, several interpretations of Islamic dress are acceptable ranging from the niqabi style [as in this photo], to the hijabi, to the "decent" covering which leaves the head open.

These are leader women who have reached political maturity through suffering. The West ignores them because they are Islamic.
 Women Activists in Baluchistan Pakistan

[From a Christian friend of New Trend who is better than many Muslims -Ed.]

Banks, Generals, & Churches are Stealing Egyptian Revolution

Part I: Egypt's Mysterious Central Bank
By Charles E. Carlson, June 27, 2012

The joyful celebrations in Cairo sadden me because I know what Egyptians are up against. If you don't, you need to read this series and understand it. I have spent 15 years championing lost causes. Sadly, Egypt seems to be one more. I would remind those who feel this, too, that Jesus did not call disciples to win, but to follow and be faithful. Unless you are prepared to be on the losing side, you cannot engage with the world in which you live. The odds of the Egyptians finding freedom is about the same as our own odds of keeping our freedoms. Why? Because we and the Egyptians have the same half-hidden enemies.
According to Reuters, Mohammed Morsi, "Egypt's first freely elected president, whose powers have already been curbed by the army, began work on a coalition Monday, after touring his new palace, once home of Hosni Mubarak who banned his movement for three decades." Reuters is right, but they only cover one-third of the problem: the military.
My own lecture, Egyptian Revolt Must Nationalize the Central Bank, was recorded on February 11, 2011, as follows:
We should not fear the Muslim Brotherhood; the Central Bankers are a greater threat. Friday, February 11, was a day of jubilation in Egypt. But the revolution has a huge hurdle yet to cross, one that few mention. Egypt's Central Bank, or "Federal Reserve" as we would call it, appears to be still actively in control of Egypt's finances. The Central Bank announced through the government's Minister of Finance, Dr. Samir Radwan, that it would provide necessary funds to pay salaries and essentials to keep the economy going (this means paying the army).
This sounds like good news to the many who receive stipends from the government, but it also means that a hidden banking power has ultimate control over Egypt. This writer does not know who owns Egypt's Central Bank. It is a secret (as is the ownership of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York). Certainly it is not owned by the thousands who protested against the Mubarak government. But the revolution cannot be complete until it is nationalized or abolished.
According to its website, The Central Bank of Egypt (CBE) is an autonomous public legal person, assuming the authorities and powers vested therein by Law No. 88 for 2003, and the Presidential Decree No. 64 for 2004, Issuing the Statute of the Central Bank. Yes, that is right, the funds of the Central Bank are considered its own money.
The Bank came into existence under the first president of Egypt, General Gamal Abdel Nasser Hussein, in 1961, some 20 years before Mubarak came to power. Nasser may have done some good for Egypt, but he left a privately-owned Central Bank for the heroes of Tahrir Square to deal with.
The much maligned Muslim Brotherhood was in existence in 1928 to oppose British occupation 33 years before "The Bank." Nasser suppressed and tried to dissolve the Brotherhood, as did each subsequent president, including Mubarak, but it seems no one challenged The Bank. The Egyptian people are a step ahead of we Americans; they have organized and taken to the streets; we have not. I can only hope brave Egyptians have an informed leadership that understands the Central Bank; complacent Americans are a long way from understanding the financial power that controls us by opening and closing the money spigot.
A story often told is that when leaving the Constitutional Convention, Benjamin Franklin was asked by a citizen, "Well, what kind of government have you given us?" And Franklin is said to have replied, "a Republic, if you can keep it." The United States began as a "republic" and did keep it for a while, with some bending and twisting. But it ended on Christmas Eve in 1913 when Congress was fooled into passing the Federal Reserve Act, signed into law by President Wilson..Today there seems to be two flavors of "Central Banks" - privately-owned and controlled ones like ours, England's, (and Egypt) and a few publicly-controlled ones, such as those in China, Venezuela, and Iran, where the government control of the Bank is in the hands of whoever controls the government.
Let us pray for our own benefit that those who lead the revolution in Egypt, and we suspect the Muslim Brotherhood is a large part of it, will use their power to end Central Bank control. Without this, a representative government cannot long succeed. Maybe Americans will someday follow suit.- end
Next time: Part II: The role of some, but not all, churches in destroying Egypt and neighboring Gaza
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Charles E. (Chuck) Carlson is a pro-peace activist. He grew up on a South Dakota farm, was conscripted and served twice in the US Army, is former Denver and Phoenix businessman, and is grandfather of six. Chuck was a Baptist Deacon before learning he was raising his family in a war based economy where the next conflict was only a election away. He also learned that most churches fail to teach Jesus' call for peace. With the help of several close friends, Carlson organized We Hold These Truths ( in 1996, and phased out his business interests thereafter. A new generation website is under construction.

Pakistan: Munawar Hasan, ameer of JI, as reported by Shamsuddin Amjadf

Re-opening NATO Supply Violates Pakistan's Autonomy, Security, Integrity

Lahore, June 30: Ameer Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan, Syed Munawar Hasan reacting to the statement of Secretary Foreign Affairs has termed it against Pakistan's autonomy, security and integrity.
Earlier the secretary foreign affairs said the reopening of NATO supply line was in favor of Pakistan itself.
He said the US many on occasions had categorically said she would not apologize for Salala Check Post attack and continue drone attacks.
He expressed these views while talking to various public delegations here at Mansoora on Saturday. He recalled that Parliament put conditions to resume the NATO supply including apology from the US and stoppage of drone attacks. However, the US kicked against these terms.
He said the time to seek apology from the US had passed. "Now the issue is of national interests, execution of Parliament's resolutions and its respect," he added.
Syed Munawar Hasan advised the Secretary Foreign Affairs that he should not worry about pull out of US and its allied forces. Earlier, the secretary foreign affairs said if the NATO supply was not restored it would be difficult for the US to draw its forces from Afghanistan. "Pulling out of Afghanistan is US concern not of Pakistan, JI Ameer said.
He warned that if the NATO supply was reopened the terror activities would increase in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
He said the US had imposed a war on Pakistan and Afghanistan under the grab of War on Terror. "Accordingly, the US has become an enemy of Pakistan so the NATO supply should not be restored at any cost," he added.
He said Pakistan had sacrificed much more than any other but the US had waged an unannounced against Pakistan on the name of War on Terror.
He held US responsible for all kind of crises Pakistan was facing and said it wanted to get control of Pakistan's nuclear program.
He said though Pakistan has given support to US interests at all levels and provided its soil, air route and logistic support to US even then US with the help of Israel and India was hatching conspiracies against Pakistan.
"It is US that has worsened Balochistan situation. Its Black Water is indulged in terrorist activities and even then Pakistan rulers seem to be given up to the US and India and, more than that, India is being given way to Afghanistan on the name of trade," he added.
JI Ameer said those who expected any benefit from the US live in fool's paradise.
He said Pakistan could not cope with its problems until it pulls out from War on Terror and refusse to execute its 'do more' dictation. So the rulers should come out of War on Terror as soon as possible, he added.

[With thanks to Salim Mansur Khalid.]
Assam Congress lawmaker assaulted for converting to Islam
Guwahati: A woman Congress legislator from Assam was thrashed by a mob at a hotel in Karimganj town late Friday night after she converted to Islam and married a Muslim friend, police said Saturday.
Rumi Nath and her husband Jacky Jakir, who were badly injured, were being shifted to the Guwahati Medical College and Hospital Saturday for treatment, police said.
Sources close to the legislator said she was pregnant.
Nath, who had won the Borkhola assembly seat in Assam's Barak Valley on a BJP ticket in 2006, had defected later and joined the Congress. She contested the 2011 assembly elections on a Congress ticket and retained the seat.
She married her friend and long time family acquaintance Jacky Jakir, a Muslim by faith, last month and it angered most of her supporters. She also converted to Islam before the marriage. She, however, did not divorce her first husband, Rakesh Kumar Singh and left the daughter from her first marriage in her parents' house.
After she revealed her second marriage, some of her supporters and social organisations in the Barak Valley warned her not to enter the area. The MLA had been out of the state with her second husband since then.
"The couple came to Karimganj last evening and were staying for the night at the Hotel Nakshatra. Angry residents somehow came to about the presence of Rumi Nath and her second husband and physically assaulted the duo. Although she had body guards and police reached the spot immediately, it became difficult to control the huge mob," Karimganj Superintendent of Police Pradip Pujari told IANS.
"While we were able to rescue both of them, they have been seriously injured. Both the MLA and her husband Jacky Jakir are being shifted to Guwahati for better treatment Saturday morning," Pujari said.
"The situation has been contained as of now but we are keeping a close vigil so that it does not take any religious angle. Investigation is also on to find out the culprits involved in the incident on Friday night," he said

2012-07-01 Sun 17:07:18 cdt