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WARMONGER EXPLAINS WAR TO PEACENIK
Author Unknown
PN: Why did you say we are we invading Iraq?
WM: We are invading Iraq because it is in
violation of Security Council
resolution 1441. A country cannot be allowed to
violate Security Council
resolutions.
PN: But I thought that the U.S., and many of our
allies, including Israel,
were in violation of more Security Council
resolutions than Iraq.
WM: It's not just about UN resolutions. The main
point is that Iraq could
have weapons of mass destruction, and the first
sign of a smoking gun could
well be a mushroom cloud over NY.
PN: Mushroom cloud? But I thought the weapons
inspectors said Iraq had no
nuclear weapons.
WM: Yes, but biological and chemical weapons are
the issue.
PN: But I thought Iraq did not have any long
range missiles for attacking us
or our allies with such weapons.
WM: The risk is not Iraq directly attacking us,
but rather Terrorists
networks that Iraq could sell the weapons to.
PN: But couldn't virtually any country sell
chemical or biological materials?
We sold quite a bit to Iraq in the eighties
ourselves, didn't we?
WM: That's ancient history. Look, Saddam Hussein
is an evil man that has an
undeniable track record of repressing his own
people since the early
eighties. He gasses his enemies. Everyone agrees
that he is a power-hungry
lunatic murderer.
PN: We sold chemical and biological materials to
a power-hungry lunatic
murderer?
WM: The issue is not what we sold, but rather
what Saddam did. He is the one
that launched a pre-emptive first strike on
Kuwait.
PN: A pre-emptive first strike does sound bad.
But didn't our ambassador to
Iraq, Gillespie, know about and green-light the
invasion of Kuwait?
WM: Let's deal with the present, shall we? As of
today, Iraq could sell its
biological and chemical weapons to Al Qaida.
Osama Bin Laden himself released
an audio tape calling on Iraqis to suicide attack
us, proving a partnership
between the two.
PN: Osama Bin Laden? Wasn't the point of invading
Afghanistan to kill him?
WM: Actually, it's not 100% certain that it's
really Osama Bin Laden on the
tapes. But the lesson from the tape is the same:
there could easily be a
partnership between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein
unless we act.
PN: Is this the same audio tape where Osama Bin
Laden labels Saddam a secular
infidel?
WM: You're missing the point by just focusing on
the tape. Powell presented a
strong case against Iraq.
PN: He did?
WM: Yes, he showed satellite pictures of an Al
Qaeda poison factory in Iraq.
PN: But didn't that turn out to be a harmless
shack in the part of Iraq
controlled by the Kurdish opposition?
WM: And a British intelligence report...
PN: Didn't that turn out to be PLAGIARIZED from
an out-of-date graduate
student paper?
WM: And reports of mobile weapons labs...
PN: Weren't those just artistic renderings?
WM: And reports of Iraqis scuttling and hiding
evidence from inspectors...
PN: Wasn't that evidence contradicted by the
chief weapons inspector, Hans
Blix?
WM: Yes, but there is plenty of other hard
evidence that cannot be revealed
because it would compromise our security.
PN: So there is no publicly available evidence of
weapons of mass destruction
in Iraq?
WM: The inspectors are not detectives, it's not
their JOB to find evidence.
You're missing the point.
PN: So what is the point?
WM: The main point is that we are invading Iraq
because Resolution 1441
threatened "severe consequences." If we do not
act, the Security Council will
become an irrelevant debating society.
PN: So the main point is to uphold the rulings of
the Security
Council?
WM: Absolutely. ...unless it rules against us.
PN: And what if it does rule against us?
WM: In that case, we must lead a coalition of the
willing to invade Iraq.
PN: Coalition of the willing? Who's that?
WM: Britain, Turkey, Bulgaria, Spain, and Italy,
for starters.
PN: I thought Turkey refused to help us unless we
gave them tens of billions
of dollars
WM: Nevertheless, they may now be willing.
PN: I thought public opinion in all those
countries was against war.
WM: Current public opinion is irrelevant. The
majority expresses its will by
electing leaders to make decisions.
PN: So it's the decisions of leaders elected by
the majority that is
important?
WM: Yes.
PN: But George B-
WM: I mean, we must support the decisions of our
leaders, however they were
elected, because they are acting in our best
interest. This is about being a
patriot. That's the bottom line.
PN: So if we do not support the decisions of the
president, we are not
patriotic?
WM: I never said that.
PN: So what are you saying? Why are we invading
Iraq?
WM: As I said, because there is a chance that
they have weapons of mass
destruction that threaten us and our allies.
PN: But the inspectors have not been able to find
any such weapons.
WM: Iraq is obviously hiding them.
PN: Catch-22! if we can't find them, that just
means they're hidden? How do
we know when they are destroyed? How do we know
they're hidden now?
WM: Because we know they had the weapons ten
years ago, and they are still
unaccounted for.
PN: The weapons we sold them, you mean?
WM: Precisely.
PN: But I thought those biological and chemical
weapons would degrade to an
unusable state over ten years.
WM: But there is a chance that some have not
degraded.
PN: So as long as there is even a small chance
that such weapons exist, even
when all evidence points to the contrary, we must
invade?
WM: Exactly.
PN: But North Korea actually has large amounts of
usable chemical,
biological, AND nuclear weapons, AND long range
missiles that can reach the
west coast AND it has expelled nuclear weapons
inspectors, AND threatened to
turn America into a sea of fire.
WM: That's a diplomatic issue.
PN: So why are we invading Iraq instead of using
diplomacy?
WM: Aren't you listening? We are invading Iraq
because we cannot allow the
inspections to drag on indefinitely. Iraq has
been delaying, deceiving, and
denying for over ten years, and inspections cost
us tens of millions.
PN: But I thought war would cost us tens of
billions.
WM: Yes, but this is not about money. This is
about security.
PN: But wouldn't a pre-emptive war against Iraq
ignite radical Muslim
sentiments against us, and decrease our security?
WM: Possibly, but we must not allow the
terrorists to change the way we live.
Once we do that, the terrorists have already won.
PN: So what is the purpose of the Department of
Homeland Security,
color-coded terror alerts, fascism in airports,
and the Patriot Act? Don't
these change the way we live?
WM: I thought you had questions about Iraq.
PN: I do. WHY ARE WE INVADING IRAQ?
WM: For the last time, we are invading Iraq
because the world has called on
Saddam Hussein to disarm, and he has failed to do
so. He must now face the
consequences.
PN: So, likewise, if the world called on us to do
something, such as find a
peaceful solution, we would have an obligation to
listen?
WM: By "world", I meant the United Nations.
PN: So, we have an obligation to listen to the
United Nations?
WM: By "United Nations" I meant the Security
Council.
PN: So, we have an obligation to listen to the
Security Council?
WM: I meant the majority of the Security Council.
PN: So, we have an obligation to listen to the
majority of the Security
Council?
WM: Well... there could be an unreasonable veto.
PN: In what case?
WM: In which case, we have an obligation to
ignore the veto.
PN: And if the majority of the Security Council
does not support us at all?
WM: Then we have an obligation to ignore the
Security Council.
PN: That makes no sense!
WM: If you love Iraq so much, you should move
there. Or maybe France, with
the all the other cheese-eating surrender
monkeys. It's time to boycott their
wine and cheese, no doubt about that.
PN: I give up.
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